lou: joining as now, the co-author of numerous anti illegal immigration laws in a kansas secretary of state, also with us, the attorney, executive director of the national immigration forum. good to have you with t cards in a lottery. i'm not kidding. we were giving them away in a lottery all over the world. what this does is take those 55,000 visas and gives them away in a way that serves our national interest to people who have advanced degrees and can help our country. in contrast, the itsy act which is a different bill that went to the senate, i think that is a disaster. basically just a rehash amnesty version of the. >> translator:. i think it is dead on arrival and am hopeful that republicans we will hold the line and resist amnesty. lo well, i don't personally understand how we could not witness the republican party and democrats. the itsy backs, to be fair, does not provide for citizenship. provides a pathway, if you will, for legal status with some rather strict conditions. >> well, because amnesty is anything that gives the illegal alien what he is stolen from the united sta